Vidro to Free Up Possibilities Wednesday, December 13, 2006
Posted by jkcmason in Acquisitions, Jose Vidro, Mariners, Offseason.Tags: Adam LaRoche, Adrian Beltre, Atlanta Braves, Ben Broussard, Bill Bavasi, Billy Beane, Brad Penny, Curt Snelling, Danny Haren, Dontrelle Willis, Emiliano Fruto, Florida Marlins, Freddy Garcia, Horacio Ramirez, Jeff Kent, Jeremy Reed, Jon Garland, Jose Lopez, Jose Vidro, Los Angeles Dodgers, Mark Buerhle, Miguel Batista, New York Yankees, Nomar Garciaparra, Oakland Athletics, Philadelphia Phillies, Richie Sexson, San Francisco Giants, Seattle Mariners, Tim Hudson, Wilson Betimit
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Looks like the Mariners have made another move acquiring Jose Vidro from the Nationals for the young talent of Chris Snelling and Emiliano Fruto. This move doesn’t make since with the current Mariners infield, all it could do would be to set us up for another trade. Vidro has experience at 1st base, 2nd base, and 3rd base. 1st base has already been the focus of rumors with Broussard headed to the Orioles, and Sexson headed to either the Giants or the Yankees. Acquiring Vidro allows the Mariners to give serious thought to trading Adrian Beltre, or Jose Lopez.
The most important goal of the Mariners in the off-season was to acquire a “top end” starter, unless by some means you would consider Horacio Ramirez or Miguel Batista on the top end of things, the Mariners have fallen short. There are some top end starters that are rumored to be available via trade. That list would include the likes of Tim Hudson, Brad Penny, Dan Haren, Jon Garland, Dontrelle Willis, and Mark Buerhle. Without bringing in a third team to the deal the most likely acquisition would be Dan Haren. Tim Hudson isn’t as likely due to the fact that the Braves have already dealt a starting pitcher in Ramirez. Mark Buerhle and Jon Garland are also less likely to be dealt after the recent move sending Freddy Garcia to the Phillies. D-Train would be a great fit for the Mariners to trade for, but it still isn’t likely that he is even on the block with Florida’s GM repeatedly quoted as saying otherwise. Brad Penny is on a team that the Mariners could deal with, but the Dodgers strengths are close to the same as the Mariners. Richie Sexson – Nomar Garciaparra, Jose Lopez – Jeff Kent, and Adrian Beltre – Wilson Betimit, Andy LaRoche.
Even with Dan Haren being the most likely conclusion, there are still problems in dealing for him. First and foremost is that the A’s aren’t likely to trade within their own division. Another strike against the deal is that Oakland is also not prone to take a large contract like Richie Sexson or Adrian Beltre. This would leave a combo deal likely to involve Jose Lopez and center fielder Jeremy Reed, who Billy Beane is reported to covet.
Of these pitchers rumored to be on the block I would most like Bill Bavasi to push for Dontrelle Willis. D-Train is a young top end Starter that throws with charisma. He would easily win the fan base over in Seattle even if it does take him some time to adjust to the American League. That doesn’t make it any more likely that the Marlins are willing to part with him, but I had to get my opinion out there some how.
We will miss you, Soriano Monday, December 11, 2006
Posted by mrgenre in Acquisitions, Mariners, Offseason, Rafael Soriano.Tags: Bill Bavasi, Felix Hernandez, Gil Meche, Horacio Ramirez, Jamie Moyer, Jarrod Washburn, Joel Piniero, Julio Mateo, Rafael Soriano, Seattle Mariners
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Okay, folks. I can untie my tongue now. It was a lousy article, ripe with inaccurate (yes, it was in the Oregonian) wonderings about Bavasi’s inability to keep minor league players and such, but it at least got my question out there: Why not convert Soriano into a starter?
Let’s have a look at who we got in return, shall we?
Horacio Ramirez, an unproven, third-tier, injury-prone starter whose only upsides are his age (27) and the fact that he’s a lefty. Who knows? He could come through for us. He’s got the potential to be a 200 inning workhorse who keeps the ball down and isn’t afraid to rely on his infield to get the job done for him. Infield we got.
But, was it worth losing Soriano? A guy who last season proved himself (again) to be capable of a tremendous season in the ‘pen! Now, I’ll be the first to admit that with Mateo still a part of our club, we have nothing to worry about (sarc), but Soriano wanted to start! He even asked, knowing we were short arms. In his rookie year, he did start for us eight times and pitched a dismal 4.56 and went 0-3. 4.56 on this squad last year, believe it or not, IS starting material!
Our majority starting five and their final ERAs of 2006:
Meche, 32 games started, 4.48 ERA
Felix, 31 games started, 4.52 ERA
Washboard, 31 games started, 4.67 ERA
Jaime, 25 games started, 4.39 ERA
Joel, 25 games started, 6.36 ERA
By ERA alone, and not factoring in his now five years of major league experience (okay, maybe three), he’s at least a third tier starter in this mix. Plus, he’s a starter to begin with. The only reason he was never considered a candidate to leave the bullpen was because we were NOT short starting pitching (do you remember, fans? the good ol’ days?) and he struggled with injuries off and on in his career as a Mariner.
Now, I can’t know all the details in this. Maybe the M’s know something we don’t about Ramirez. Maybe Soriano had lost his magic touch after his injury last year. Maybe we’ve actually got the stuff to win this year.
But this Mariners’ fan is getting a little fed up with “maybes.”

I’m sufficiently rattled, as every good Mariners fan should be, by our team’s lackluster achievements so far this offseason. If Bavasi was just trying to hurt himself here (which he’s doing a fine job of), that’s one thing, but to cripple our franchise is another.Let’s break down these moves so far:
